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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203412404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Eric Huss <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203412404">(Jul 09 2020 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>There have been a number of strange errors recently.  In this PR, bors randomly restarted the build with no explanation: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74137#issuecomment-656206331">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74137#issuecomment-656206331</a></p>
<p>Note that the previous comment, the commit has been removed from GitHub, which I have never seen before: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74137#issuecomment-656186364">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74137#issuecomment-656186364</a></p>
<p>It then continued to fail on the 3rd attempt due to network.</p>
<p>On the 4th attempt, it failed to find the commit <code>24051d7</code>.</p>
<p>Is there a deeper problem here?  I've noticed a large number of network errors in the past few days.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203413358" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203413358">(Jul 09 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was about to post a thread for the same issue <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203429395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Eric Huss <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203429395">(Jul 09 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> I'm skeptical retrying will help, something looks to be corrupt. </p>
<p>Out of curiousiy, does anyone happen to know what <code>rust-lang-ci/rust</code> is, and why everything runs against that repo instead of <code>rust-lang/rust</code>?  </p>
<p>It's hard to tell if this is just persistent network trouble, or if there is something else wrong.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203429777" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203429777">(Jul 09 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120518">@Eric Huss</span> so my rollup PR included your PR and it did not exhibit the same error, it got all the way to a test that failed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203429845" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203429845">(Jul 09 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120518">@Eric Huss</span> i believe the CI repo is separate for security reasons</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203429851" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203429851">(Jul 09 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>so you cannot just push to that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203429988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Eric Huss <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203429988">(Jul 09 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, hopefully the rollup will succeed. thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203430020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203430020">(Jul 09 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>the CI repo needs to have access to all the secrets for uploading rust artifacts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203445384" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203445384">(Jul 09 2020 at 21:48)</a>:</h4>
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<p>ok, hopefully the rollup will succeed. thanks!</p>
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<p><span aria-label="cry" class="emoji emoji-1f622" role="img" title="cry">:cry:</span> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74195#issuecomment-656357982">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74195#issuecomment-656357982</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203626809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203626809">(Jul 12 2020 at 04:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>the failures on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74245">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74245</a> are fun</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203631216" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203631216">(Jul 12 2020 at 06:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah it's just failing to fetch</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203631222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203631222">(Jul 12 2020 at 06:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Seems to be a bug in actions but the GitHub status page seems ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203631740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203631740">(Jul 12 2020 at 07:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>we shouldn't retry the beta PR just yet since it's got a different llvm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203652461" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203652461">(Jul 12 2020 at 17:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>ye the mystery continues <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61d" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203660385" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203660385">(Jul 12 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>this might be my lucky day, the rollup landed and now the beta has been testing for two hours</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203663838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203663838">(Jul 12 2020 at 22:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's been 4 hours, <em>please</em> don't timeout</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203664779" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203664779">(Jul 12 2020 at 22:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe you should start doing rollups then, your luck will help us <span aria-label="wink" class="emoji emoji-1f609" role="img" title="wink">:wink:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203665806" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203665806">(Jul 12 2020 at 23:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it was just lucky timing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203665818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203665818">(Jul 12 2020 at 23:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> given <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74239#issuecomment-657273813">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74239#issuecomment-657273813</a> I wonder if we should try another rollup after the beta (if it succeeds) with the treeclosed still, to drain the queue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203665886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203665886">(Jul 12 2020 at 23:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> yeah that's the plan</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203665972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203665972">(Jul 12 2020 at 23:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know some people who will be happy to get deterministic wasm builds again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672852">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>what is happening here <a href="https://dev.azure.com/rust-lang/rust/_build/results?buildId=34481&amp;view=logs&amp;j=e0b986f2-e192-5c4d-4767-e55e6660d4b0&amp;t=02367e47-7229-51d9-9841-ca76c43b0d62">https://dev.azure.com/rust-lang/rust/_build/results?buildId=34481&amp;view=logs&amp;j=e0b986f2-e192-5c4d-4767-e55e6660d4b0&amp;t=02367e47-7229-51d9-9841-ca76c43b0d62</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672857" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672857">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>did it take 3 hours just to start the build??</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672863">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>python2.7 ../x.py dist --build i686-unknown-linux-gnu --host i686-unknown-linux-gnu --target i686-unknown-linux-gnu</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672865">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks like it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672909">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>it does an entire GCC build locally?!?!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672926" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672926">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> presumably we need to rely on CI caching to get any of those builds to actually succeed because they can't exactly finish when the Rust part starts at 3h30m in...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672931" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672931">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672970" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672970">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Docker was a mistake</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672984" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672984">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>then again, probably can't do better in CI environments due to trust issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203672995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203672995">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>needing to build GCC locally feels off though, I wonder how big the problem being solved is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673106" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673106">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> would it be possible to have the timeout only around the post-Docker part of the build? so that we don't have to do two CI runs in a row every time this happens :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673110">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I believe the timeout is built in to the azure stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673118" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673118">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>and you can't restrict it to a specific step?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673119">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Would be cool to temporarily increase sccache caching limits</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673121" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673121">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Idk</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673123">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>also it's a bit odd that all the Docker stuff is in "Run build"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673267">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh... <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/src/ci/docker/host-x86_64/dist-i686-linux/Dockerfile#L62-L64">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/src/ci/docker/host-x86_64/dist-i686-linux/Dockerfile#L62-L64</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673322">(Jul 13 2020 at 02:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's a shame you can't target older linux without running older linux. what is even cross-compilation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673933" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673933">(Jul 13 2020 at 03:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>uhhhh do we really need both GCC and clang? <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/src/ci/docker/host-x86_64/dist-i686-linux/Dockerfile#L62-L74">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/src/ci/docker/host-x86_64/dist-i686-linux/Dockerfile#L62-L74</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673935">(Jul 13 2020 at 03:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>can CentOS not build Clang 7?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673945">(Jul 13 2020 at 03:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me notices the Python and Perl in there as well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203673985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203673985">(Jul 13 2020 at 03:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>me, to <code>@T-infra</code>: "spend less on bootstrap"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203674404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203674404">(Jul 13 2020 at 03:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if try builds are what are evicting LLVM cache</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203674898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203674898">(Jul 13 2020 at 03:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it's not even LLVM here, is it? it timed out because of the Docker image, with GCC and whatnot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203674908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203674908">(Jul 13 2020 at 03:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>(but also if it is try, sorry I started one just now)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684142" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684142">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> incredible time for GitHub to start falling over</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684173">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I saw <a href="https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/j597fw8kv04c?utm_ts=1594613189">https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/j597fw8kv04c?utm_ts=1594613189</a> earlier and now I'm constantly getting "server error"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684182">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span><br>
me: "ok let's start going over the weekend's notifications"<br>
github: lolnope</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684206">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh right it's monday morning not just sunday aftermorning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684284">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I just got a 500 without the image at the top loading, just now (I refreshed and the only difference was the image loaded)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684411">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I just got the same but with the unicorn not loading the first time. even the error messages are failing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684698">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:25)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>would it be possible to have the timeout only around the post-Docker part of the build? so that we don't have to do two CI runs in a row every time this happens :/</p>
</blockquote>
<p>bors doesn't understand the individual steps, just the final time -- usually when I make a change to the linux image I just retry after it's done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684820" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684820">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:27)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I wonder if try builds are what are evicting LLVM cache</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span>  unless sccache's hashing is broken, that shouldn't happen -- the only eviction that takes place is S3's lifecycle policy that deletes the file n days after it's uploaded (don't remember the exact number, it's like 90 days or something)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203684868" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203684868">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119009">eddyb</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors/near/203673945">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>/me notices the Python and Perl in there as well</p>
</blockquote>
<p>heh that's centos 5 for you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685002" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685002">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119009">eddyb</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors/near/203673985">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>me, to <code>@T-infra</code>: "spend less on bootstrap"</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> I reiterate :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685061" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685061">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>hopefully the problem will go away in a few days once we switch to GHA :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685066" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685066">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>is linux cross-compilation (across libc versions) so broken that we have to do it on CentOS? while replacing the C/C++ compiler <em>twice</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685091" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685091">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>do we even need to build GCC 5 <em>then</em> Clang 7?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685117">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>or am I wasting your time by rehashing this :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685287">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:33)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>is linux cross-compilation (across libc versions) so broken that we have to do it on CentOS?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>my understand for glibc is yes -- we don't have to do it specifically on centos, but on the earliest glibc we support, which happens to be shipped on centos <em>5</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685407">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was imagining you could transplant (or even build! surely it would be faster than <em>building two full C++ compilers</em>) such a glibc onto a system from less than a decade ago</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203685436" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203685436">(Jul 13 2020 at 07:35)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>do we even need to build GCC 5 then Clang 7?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>dunno about the specifics (didn't set it up myself), but well, centos 5 is <em>old</em>, I wouldn't be surprised if the gcc they ship can't compile clang 7</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203692208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203692208">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmmm if we cache for 30 days then any idea why we're timing out so often?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203692694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203692694">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did we land something that slowed everything down</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203692837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203692837">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, RA</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203692868" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203692868">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203692899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203692899">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Were we not gating on RA before</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203692953" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203692953">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>gotta love CI-ing two Rust compilers at once,</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203692965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203692965">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Wouldn't this only affect the tools builds?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693501">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> all dist builds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693528" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693528">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> tools get <em>built</em> on the dist builders, because they are part of the distribution</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693529">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> can't we just temporarily raise the time limit?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693538" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693538">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>but they only get <em>tested</em> on the tools builders</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693577">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd rather wait an extra half an hour instead of half a week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693580">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure if we actually run RA tests</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693585" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693585">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693587">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693590">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>fair. tools in general.^^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693594" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693594">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>what limit would you suggest?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693613" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693613">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>just try adding another half hour, I think? they always fail with one or two builders close to finishing, at least the ones I looked at</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693620" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693620">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>or maybe another hour <em>shrug</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693631">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean just make it 1-2h then to be safe?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693654">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>in best factorio style I'd usually just double it if it isn't enough but that may be excessive ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693670">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>ahhh exponential... what's the opposite of "backing off"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693675" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693675">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>exponential push-on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693731">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>keep on keeping on</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693816" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> bjorn3 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693816">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe allow overriding the timeout for specific PR's using <code>@bors timeout=42h</code> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693876" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693876">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>manish going to sleep: @bors timeout=10h</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203693888" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203693888">(Jul 13 2020 at 09:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I'm just guessing, it'd be like half that for me)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203698478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mati865 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203698478">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="121055">Pietro Albini</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors/near/203685436">said</a>:</p>
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<blockquote>
<p>do we even need to build GCC 5 then Clang 7?</p>
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<p>dunno about the specifics (didn't set it up myself), but well, centos 5 is <em>old</em>, I wouldn't be surprised if the gcc they ship can't compile clang 7</p>
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<p>Yeah, LLVM 7 requires GCC 4.8 and newer LLVM versions require GCC 5.1.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203698708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mati865 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203698708">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="121055">Pietro Albini</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors/near/203692837">said</a>:</p>
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<p>yeah, RA</p>
</blockquote>
<p>RA is not shipped on beta though. Yet beta backport PR timed out 3 times in a row <span aria-label="confused" class="emoji emoji-1f615" role="img" title="confused">:confused:</span> .</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203698821" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203698821">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119581">@mati865</span> hmm is CentOS 5 pre-GCC 4.8? we build GCC 5.something not 4.8, in order to build Clang  7, so I wonder why that is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203698883" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mati865 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203698883">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> it's 4.1, too old to build anything but newer compiler...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203698948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203698948">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah I see, thanks. so we just happen to use something newer than we need to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203698966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203698966">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we used to not build Clang 7 and instead used the GCC 5 directly to build LLVM for Rust</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203699169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mati865 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203699169">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>IIRC we use Clang to build Rust's LLVM to be able to use ThinLTO.<br>
<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74163">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74163</a> moves to Debian 6 but it's still GCC 4.4.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203699259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203699259">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>incredible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203699765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mati865 <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203699765">(Jul 13 2020 at 10:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>But that shouldn't be big deal since Docker images are cached (so they should be only rebuild when Dockerfiles change) and building one less compiler would not make Docker + Rust build to finish within the time.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203705420" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Eric Huss <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203705420">(Jul 13 2020 at 11:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="132040">Manish Goregaokar</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors/near/203692694">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Did we land something that slowed everything down</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Also <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74046">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74046</a> should save 10-20 minutes (depending on the builder).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203727872" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203727872">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203727891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203727891">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> any idea why the beta PR is timing out so much?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203727898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203727898">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, I have no idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203727899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203727899">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>that does't seem to contain RA</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203727905" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203727905">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>there doesn't seem to be anything special about it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203727945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203727945">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe a bad interaction with one of the backports?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203728012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203728012">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>but a lot of the builders are finishing normally so that seems like it wouldn't be the case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203728086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203728086">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> do we have some idea of which builders are timing out?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203728206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203728206">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm it looks like we're rebuilding docker cache</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203728702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203728702">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we've been slowly getting to full docker cache? that's the only thing I can think of</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203728747" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203728747">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>in any case if this latest run fails, we'll switch to trying to land directly to stable I guess, since we need to do that today anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203729852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203729852">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah i think it has to do with docker</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203729901" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203729901">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>i don't understand it well enough</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203729930" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203729930">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> i guess switching between landing on beta and nightly evicts that cache?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203729955" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203729955">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>they should be independent caches</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203729999" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203729999">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>rather, the caches are intended to be the same, but we never evict from it other than on a time basis</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730170" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730170">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes we currently expire after 90 days which isn't quite good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730277" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730277">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>presumably the docker in beta just expired over the last few weeks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730311">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>ideally it'd be something like "days since last access" but not sure s3 gives us that by default</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730353">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah gotcha</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730392">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>given that our release cycle is six weeks wouldn't the beta cache be still alive?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730421">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, I think no -- we don't upload presumably if it hasn't changed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730433" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730433">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730501">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>so it's presumably been 90 days since the last time that happened (on beta?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730522">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure if channels are part of the cache key</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730530">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think they're not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730555">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> idk how hard it is to do either of these things, but a thing i've proposed in the past is:</p>
<ul>
<li>for the same code, if a build was previously a success, remember it</li>
<li>tree up the jobs so that you only have one build job per platform and then it splits to run tests and dist jobs</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730569">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>we do both of these in servo and it's geat</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730587">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>really helps with the intermittents</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730607" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730607">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we use taskcluster</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730612" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730612">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean I'm not opposed to either but someone would presumably need to implement that for bors (or update our config)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730639">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>the latter might be possible in GHA</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730646">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>idk how though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730649">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>i heard it was</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730708">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I doubt the latter would help at all though, given it doesn't (presumably) reduce end-to-end time at all? unless I guess you can retry just the second bit, but that seems hard to get right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730772" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730772">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Anyway it looks like the majority of our builders would've been invalidated on May 8th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730809">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>which was... just over 90 days ago?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730911">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway we'll see, it looks like this time around I'm not seeing too many docker rebuilds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730916">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>if any</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203730978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203730978">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it's hard to say</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203731332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203731332">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah the latter works better with the former</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203731346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203731346">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203731379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203731379">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>after this i'll land a rollup with the cargo caching changes ehuss made</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203731398" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203731398">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>which might improve things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203731582" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203731582">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>kinda wish bors understood that beta PRs are a different queue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203731726" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203731726">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> we don't have the capacity for two auto builds at the same time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203733254" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203733254">(Jul 13 2020 at 15:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span> preparing stable-targeted PR now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203738235" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203738235">(Jul 13 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh fuck yeah it landed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203738236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203738236">(Jul 13 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>finally</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203738362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203738362">(Jul 13 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh you're doing stable first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203738364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203738364">(Jul 13 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203738369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203738369">(Jul 13 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>i'll make a rollup later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203782924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203782924">(Jul 13 2020 at 23:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> ever seen this as a spurious error? <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74306#issuecomment-657864104">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74306#issuecomment-657864104</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203782930" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203782930">(Jul 13 2020 at 23:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>or maybe it can happen to any test</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203809961" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203809961">(Jul 14 2020 at 08:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't get that error... I'm running x86 linux just like the builder, I have nothing fancy set</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203810004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203810004">(Jul 14 2020 at 08:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll try a stage 2 run next I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange%20bors%20errors/near/203827431" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/strange.20bors.20errors.html#203827431">(Jul 14 2020 at 12:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh this is the thing that fails even on CI in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/74221">#74221</a></p>



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